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Plácido Ramón de TORRES, forgeries of the Italian States

Rosendo Fernandez

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Stamp dealer and forger of Barcelona (Spain). He collaborated with Miguel Rodriguez Sanchez (see for more information the book 'Philatelic Forgers, their Lives and Works' by V.E.Tyler). He also lived for some period in Livorno (Via Maggi N.2), where he apparently collaborated with Giulio Cesare Bonasi.

According to Gerhard Lang, de Torres was born in Estepona, Malaga in 1847.

Books issued by Torres (from http://www.filateliadigital.com/uploads/catalogos_esp.pdf):

Livorno/Madrid, Plácido Ramón de TORRES CATALOGO PREZZO CORRENTE DI TUTTI FRANCO-BOLLI CREATI DAL 1840 AL 1874 (can be downloaded from Google).

Barcelona, Plácido Ramón de TORRES: ALBUM ILUSTRADO PARA LOS SELLOS DE CORREO CONTENIENDO LA DESCRIPCIÓN Y PRECIO DE TODOS LOS SELLOS EMITIDOS DESDE 1840 Á 1879.


Forgeries of the Italian States similar to images of the de Torres catalogue

For Torres (Placido Ramon de) forgeries of other countries, click here.

Image obtained thanks to Lorenzo Image from the Gray catalogue.
Genuine 5 c Modena stamp and an unlisted 5 c red bogus issue! On http://forgeriesofitalianstates.com/Modena/Modena.htm, the same forgery is shown but in black on yellowish. The head of the eagle is quite different from the genuine stamp. This forgery looks exactly the same as the illustration used in 'The Stamp Collector's Handbook' of 1874 by Pemberton (page 71). This forgery is also identical to the image provided in the John Edward Gray 'The Illustrated Catalogue of Postage Stamps' of 1870 on page 37 (see image above). This forgery can also be found in the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres of 1879 on page 83.


Naples 1860 provisional issue and very primitive forgery. Next to it the same image that can be found in the catalogue of de Torres of 1879 on page 84.

Scan from a de Torres catalogue
Papal States 40 c 1867 stamp and a forgery made by Senf in 1875 according to 'Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. It has a strange "40. Cent". This forgery can also be found in the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres "Album Illustrado para Sellos de Correo" of 1879 on page 86 (see third image).

Scan from de Torres catalogue
This 2 c forgery also appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86. It is identical to a forgery listed in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery.

Scan from a de Torres catalogue
This forgery of the 2 Baj value is attributed to Senf in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. It has a ":" instead of a "." behind "BAJ". The "B" and "J" of this word are quite different from a genuine stamp. Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

Scan from the de Torres catalogue
This forgery of the 4 Baj value is described in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. It has no dot behind the "4", the "F" is strange and the "S" of "POSTALE" has large serifs and "POSTALE" is written as "POSTATE". Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

Scan from a De Torres catalogue
This forgery of the 5 Baj value is described in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. It has a rather small "5", the "S" of "POSTALE" is stange and the "A" of "BAJ" larger. Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

Scan from a De Torres catalogue
This forgery of the 6 Baj value is described in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

Scan from a De Torres catalogue
This forgery of the 7 Baj value is described in the book Roman States Forgeries, the issue of 1867-1868' by F.J.Levitsky and F.A.Jenkins. It has only a line on the right upper key part (instead of a cross), also the letters are different. The top part of the "B" of "BAJ" is too large. Sorry, no image available yet of the 'real' forgery. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

 

Scan from a De Torres catalogue
Papal States 8 Baj genuine stamp and forgery. The letters in "BAJ" are different, there is no dot behind this word in the above forgery. There are other differences, for example the "8" is joined to the key above it. According to 'Roman States Forgeries the Issues of 1852' by F.J. Levitsky it was made by the forger Senf in 1875. It appears in the de Torres catalogue of 1879 on page 86.

Image obtained thanks to Lorenzo
Scan from a Moens catalogue Part of the Gray catalogue. Taken from a de Torres catalogue.
"PAPM" instead of "PARM" forgeries. The last images are scanned from Le Timbre Poste by Moens and from Gray and de Torres catalogues.

Parma, genuine 40 c stamp. In the above forgery (second image) of the 40 c the "A" of "STATI" is too broad and the value "40" doesn't resemble the genuine stamp. Furthermore there is no cross on top of the crown, instead there is a pearl. The bogus 10 c red was probably issued by the same forger. The inscription on top appears to be "STATI PAPM" ("P" instead of "R"). I've also seen the 10 c in the bogus color green. The oldest "PAPM" forgery I have seen is from Moens in his Le Timbre Poste No.129, page 71 from September 1873. This forgery is identical to the image provided in the John Edward Gray 'The Illustrated Catalogue of Postage Stamps' of 1870 on page 40 (see image above). This forgery can also be found in the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres of 1879 on page 85 (see last image). Note that there are scratches on the de Torres design, which don't appear on the Gray design or on the forgeries.

Certified genuine Scan from Moens' Le Timbre Poste Image taken from a de Torres catalogue.
Genuine 15 c Parma second issue. A 15 c blue stamp next to it, possibly a proof or more likely a forgery, the design is slightly different from the genuine stamps. Next to it a similar forgery(?) in the correct colour red. The leaf patterns at the left are different and the "C" of "CENT" has a strange toppart. This forgery type was apparently based on an illustration in Le Timbre Poste, No 132, page 94 of Moens (December 1873, fourth image). This forgery can also be found in the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres "Album Illustrado para Sellos de Correo" of 1879 on page 85 (see last image above).

Image obtained thanks to Lorenzo Scan from a Gray catalogue. Cut from Le Timbre-Poste Scan from a de Torres catalogue
Romagna, genuine stamp and forgery of the 4 b in color blue (first and second image). The '4' has a too long left part. This forgery is identical to the image provided in the John Edward Gray 'The Illustrated Catalogue of Postage Stamps' of 1870 on page 45 (see third image above). In 1872 it appears again in Le Timbre-Poste by Moens No120, page 92 (fourth image). An image of this forgery can also be found in the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres of 1879 on page 83 (fifth image).

Certified genuine Scan of a Gray catalogue Scan of a de Torres catalogue
Genuine stamp and a very primitive forgery of the 1 Cr value Tuscany first stamps. The lion has a weird face, small crown and almost straight hair. This forgery is identical to the image provided in the John Edward Gray 'The Illustrated Catalogue of Postage Stamps' of 1870 (except that it is in black color there, see next image). It might have been based on this image or have been reprinted from the plates to make the book. To make things even more complicated, the catalogue of Placido Ramon de Torres "Album Illustrado para Sellos de Correo" of 1879 also has the same image! (information passed to me thanks to Gerhard Lang, 2016).


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